mocking the cutscene right before a level where you keep dying because you’ve heard it so many times
(all the Wrath kids, all together now)
Boldly said. But I remain unconvinced.
(I always remember that line in particular because that was my cue to PoM the tank.)
I wondered if I would get a question about this after I heard about that kerfuffle. I’ve gotten a number of questions about it, so I thought I’d post my take on the matter here. The answer that it would take double the work is not entirely accurate, but it also isn’t a completely trivial task to do either.
I get the distinct feeling that this isn’t going to be a particularly popular piece, but it bears mentioning. I’ve seen a lot of people complain about things like Day 1 Paid DLC, and how much they abhor it. They feel like they are missing out on the “complete” experience of the game, because some content is held behind an additional pay wall on day 1, and it really annoys them. The worst part about it is that this content is becoming more and more interesting. It adds to the story, it is actually fun and provides better context and makes the overall game more enjoyable if you have it. But it costs $10, and you just paid $60 for the game itself, and now they want even MORE money, and RAAAARGH THIS MAKE YOU ANGRY. So you hop on the internet, and you post angrily to message boards, and look! There are lots of people who are also angry and furious because they dare to ask for MORE money! You end up with some sort of “I am Spartacus!” movement where everybody swears never to buy a game again, because the series has been RUINED by money-grubbing publishers. People often even make memes like this one:
Well, I’m here to tell you the truth about it all. The truth about how the evil, evil game developers get to make this content, and how they can justify charging you for it.The actual God’s-honest truth about the inner workings and justifications for paid DLC, especially day 1 DLC.
Are you ready?
Here we go.
"This is why about 90% of DLC sales for most games are made within the first month of launch. It’s the best time for it, when the game is still fresh in players’ minds and they want to play more of it, before the next big thing hits the shelves."
This is also why season passes have become a big thing- rather than release DLC on day one and piss off fans who feel like that content should be included with the main game, they sell pre-orders for the DLC on day one and take their time actually making it. If a player buys the season pass and has stopped caring about the game by the time the DLC actually releases 3-6 months later, they stil have their money.
While I agree that DLC is a necessary evil of game development and gamers whine about it way too much, KOTOR2’s ending is a horrible example of how DLC can help. As much complaining as there was about the ending as it was, how much rage do you think there would have been if they had offered the ending it should have had all along as paid DLC? Even EA, arguably the most soulless money-grubbing company in all of console gaming, was smart enough to make the ME3 directors’ cut free. The answer to KOTOR2’s ending wasn’t DLC, the answer was to delay its release and put the ending it was meant to have on the disc.
Personally, my litmus test for whether or not a given piece of DLC is “okay” or not is “if the game came out before 2005, before DLC was a thing, would it make sense to include this content in the game?” If the answer is no, the DLC is probably fine, if it’s yes, it probably isn’t. The Omega, Leviathan, and Citadel DLCs for ME3 pass this test, as do things like BLI’s Burial at Sea and Valkyria Chronicles’ Edy and Selvaria DLC. Most skin/weapon/multiplayer map DLCs pass this test. Javik fails it pretty hard.
DLC is fine, but it’s important for developers to make DLC that players feel like is adding extra content to the game, as opposed to making them feel like they have to pay another $10 to get the “complete” core game. Plenty of gamers are entitled shits who will complain about all DLC and fuck those guys, but at the same time I don’t have much sympathy for the rage developers get over DLC like Javik that add incredibly important content to the “core” game.
The victims of the Santa Barbara murder’s bodies haven’t even gone cold and people are already using the victims as mouthpieces for their toxic logic and beliefs. I’ve already seen multiple posts about this being “proof that MRAs are nothing but misogynists and terrorists” and how this is an example of “white privilege”, and then there’s the misinformation.
I’ve also seen posts that are stating that “(Some say ‘six,’ some say ‘seven’, both are wrong) women are dead because of MRAs”, so lets put the facts on the table, and actually use sources like the logical human beings we are:
1.) It’s not “seven women dead”. It’s not even “six women dead” It’s seven people, including Elliot Rodger, and four of them were men, two of them were women. Naturally, none of the Tumblr feminists I have seen as of yet will acknowledge this; I’m still seeing multiple bullshit “six women are dead because of male entitlement” posts being circulated with none of the people doing so bothering to do their own research.
2.) People claim that he subscribed to a number of MRA subreddits and YouTube channels. Anyone willing to confirm this can check here, where it lists the YouTube channels he subscribed to. However, here are the unbiased facts:
a.) The only actual channel that could be loosely attributed to Men’s Rights Activism that I can find would be the ThePlayersupremeShow, which has a video about the “feminization of men”. The channel itself focuses mostly on possible reasons why men are not picking up women and other questionable videos. While they it does appear in some cases to be promoting an “alpha male” mentality it hardly means the channel was centred around Men’s Rights Activism.
In fact, the only websites as of yet that I have seen accusing him of subscribing to MRA YouTube channels or an MRA mentality are very biased feminist articles, like this one, which state things like:
The true Alpha Male. What those who call themselves the Mens Rights Movement aspire to be.
The Men’s Rights Movement as they call themselves is a nebulous group of pickup artists and misogynists who’ve found each other on line, and are attempting to create a movement based around their hatred, disdain, and fear of women.
Rather than seeking mental help for some obvious issues, he sought out the Men’s Rights Movement. He watched their propaganda. He internalized their hatred of women.
That is hardly an objective view of the situation. Some might even say it’s a willfully ignorant view of the situation.
So here are the facts:
a.) He subscribed to a body-building forum, where they actually tried to give him legitimate advice, (and some thought he was trolling).
b.) He did not subscribe to /r/pussypass, they only used it as an example of “anti-women” subreddits.
c.) He was a regular poster on a forum called PUAhate. It should be noted that PUA stands for Pick-Up Artists, and they are not affiliated with the Men’s Rights Movement. Nor are the terms synonymous or interchangeable. (People are likely going to accuse me of being an MRA myself for saying this, but I don’t really give a shit.)
It would be irresponsible to lay this violence at the feet of the men’s rights activists with whom Rodger seemed to find support for his rage. Rodger is alleged to have murdered six women and men.
Despite all of this, if anyone has concrete proof he was an MRA or subscribed to any MRA forums or websites that I did not mention, feel free to let me know. Right now I’m not posting this for opinions, I’m posting it for concrete facts.
3.) Fact: He had a serious sense of entitlement. Nobody is denying that, actually. He was misogynistic and felt women owed it to him to sleep with him or be in a relationship with him. He was, many would agree, a piece of shit. However, taking these facts and then twisting them to make it seem like “every man’s sense of entitlement” is what led him to murder these people is ignorant and an insult to the facts of the situation. He felt entitled, that does not mean every man has the same feeling of entitlement. Turning this into a “men are all pigs” circlejerk only makes those doing so look exceedingly ignorant and childish. We’ve already seen a couple of examples of this, and I’m sure we’ll see more in the days to come. It should also be noted that he vowed to kill the men that the girls chose over him in his video. So his motive didn’t exclusively involve women.
4.) Fact: He was mentally disturbed. At this point that is very apparent. One news source claims that he was also receiving psychiatric medication for paranoia, but refused to take it (not the most reliable source, which I apologize for, but it’s what I have at the moment). To everyone saying “how dare you blame this on mental illness”, he was mentally ill. Ignoring that in favour of “he was the typical MRA loser” makes you look exceedingly stupid.
May 28, 6:43 PM EST: Adding on a part concerning the race component of the story. Someone also wanted me to add that Rodger was the son of the Second Unit Director of the Hunger Games movies.
5.) Rodger was half-Asian, being Chinese on his mother’s side of the family. Despite this, he showed some self-hatred and racism towards Asians, stating this such as:
How could an ugly Asian attract the attention of a white girl, while a beautiful Eurasian like myself never had any attention from them?
as well as:
This revelation about the world, and about myself, really decreased my self-esteem. On top of this was the feeling that I was different because I am of mixed race. I am half White, half Asian, and this made me different from the normal fully-white kids that I was trying to fit in with. I envied the cool kids, and I wanted to be one of them.
and also, in regards to blacks:
How could an inferior, ugly black boy be able to get a white girl and not me? I am beautiful, and I am half white myself. I am descended from British aristocracy. He is descended from slaves. I deserve it more.
I knew that when the Day of Retribution came, I would have to kill my housemates to get them out of the way. If they were pleasant to live with, I would regret having to kill them, but due to their behavior I now had no regrets about such a prospect. In fact, I’d even enjoy stabbing them both to death while they slept.
"Unintended casualties"? Not quite.
So, to sum things up, there are a lot of rumours going around about why he did what he did, but the facts are: He was mentally disturbed, he was misogynistic and had a terrible sense of entitlement, and he killed men and women. What we don’t have any concrete proof for as of yet is that he 100% had affiliations with MRAs or was an MRA himself. So please for the love of Christ on high stop spreading rumours and misinformation, and fucking stop using a tragedy to promote your beliefs.At least give the dead time to rest before you fucking dig them up and use them as mouthpieces for your political views.
Hrm. It’s almost as though this comparison is completely fucking stupid?
A man goes and shoots a number of people leaving 7 dead (including himself) and at least 13 injured. Among both the dead and injured are both men and women (dead are 5 men, 2 women).
Feminists catch on - and realise that he was a member of PUA forums - they seize their opportunity and try to blame it on the MRM - even to the point where celebrities that I actually kind of like (such as Wil Wheaton and MC Frontalot) are jumping in on the MRA bashing as well.
I don’t consider myself an MRA - but this is fucking disgusting.
These people are piling onto the dead while the bodies are still warm - and the perpetrator himself, practically smearing their bloody entrails over themselves in order to feel reasonably justified in lashing out against a movement that has seemingly nothing to do with it.
First off, let’s clear the MRM. They say he was an MRA - but there’s zero evidence of this. He was active on PUA forums, and used Red Pill terminology. Anyone interested in social justice at all knows that MRAs aren’t the same as RedPillers or PUAs - and they often clash over shit. MRAs tend to reject the alpha/beta talk of the RedPillers, and have different goals to PUA entirely (fighting for equal rights vs. hooking up with women *shrug).
People said that Elliot Rodger was subscribed to MRM channels on youtube - when I checked, I didn’t recognise any (though admittedly I only subscribe to GWW). It seems he has a stronger set of ties with Pokemon, WoW, and Game of Thrones than he does with the MRM, judging by his youtube channel. Surely he would have been subscribed to GWW, TyphonBlue, Paul Elam, JonTheOther… any of those? Nope.
And when you look at how the MRM has responded - it is mostly an opposition to Rodger’s views - and a sense of sadness that he fell into the trap of placing the focus of his self esteem on his sex life. The MRM is fundamentally against the way Elliot thought.
Pretty much, the whole attack on the MRM is completely unfounded
But all of this defense is in vein if I don’t explain how we should be looking at it.
Let’s make this clear - first off, yes Elliot was plainly a misogynist, and misanthrope.
I’m not going to deny that - he had some awful views, and should be held accountable for them - and of course, his actions.
He had Aspergers. Now this was not likely the cause of the shootings, or the views in itself. In my line of work I interact with people who have Aspergers nearly daily, and I was incorrectly treated for it myself as a child (long story, might talk about it later) - so I want to ensure that I am completely respectful when saying this, but if you read his manifesto he does cite that he felt awful about being so awkward around women and this was a source of pain for him.
Aspergers often manifests with difficulty in social situations - as I’m sure everyone knows, so while Aspergers certainly isn’t the cause of the violence, it definitely put Elliot in a position where he was vulnerable. It was particularly exacerbated by the values that formed the basis of his identity.
He was bullied at school. This is something that’s also talked about in his manifesto. I grew up with a boy with Aspergers who was bullied all throughout elementary school and most of high - and it was brutal. That kind of bullying has awful effects on anyone.
I’m not here to defend his actions, but just to look at how we can stop this from happening again. That is - what can we do?
Unlike what a lot of people think - trying to tear down a rights movement probably isn’t the answer. Even if you were going to try to tear down the PUA and RedPill groups - well… could you? They’re always going to exist while the societal problems that promote them exist - and I’m not talking about the vague blanket answer “misogyny” - I’m talking about a society where people feel so undervalued that they adopt the attitudes that Elliot Rodger possessed. Even if you did somehow implement some Orwellian “you can’t say this on the internet” legislation - the communities would likely move to TOR. You can’t even really try to tarnish them into disbanding, as they already feel as if they’re operating from a position in which they are being victimized.
So rather than bitching at people, and trying to blame groups for the action of a person (do we really need to talk about Valerie Solanas?) - what can we do?
- We should discuss how the bullying affected Elliot and try to stop bullying in schools (a colossal task in itself)
- We should improve our health care and psychotherapy standards (and accessibility) so that this can be averted early, or altogether. (though in this case the shooter was wealthy and getting help, most aren’t)
- We should ensure that men not only seek help for mental issues - but also take their health seriously. Elliot did see a therapist - but in his manifesto it seems he didn’t take the visits seriously.
- We should discuss, promote and celebrate aspects of masculinity that are positive - to help young men realize who they are and take pride in that.
- We should tackle self esteem issues in whatever areas we can (this is again, a huge task - hard to even know where we can start - probably with point #2)
- Given Elliot did fit the “awkward gamer” stereotype - and maybe that had an influence in his social life - maybe we could tackle that? Promote the acceptance of “nerds” and “geeks” in our culture (rather than seeing them as something to be laughed at and bullied) - and teach people to moderate their lives more effectively (as someone whose brother is a big gamer, a lot of people could use this lesson).
- We could sure try to combat misogyny - but I don’t personally believe that misogyny is a cultural norm at all. You might be on your own with that - but if you can find a way to combat it, please do.
I’m not trying to paint Elliot as a victim, but in some circumstances - he sort of was. He was desperate, depressed, and needed help. Unfortunately he didn’t find the kind of help he needed. Note that all of the above points (bar #7) are points that to some degree, the MRM tries to address (maybe not the gamer one so much - but the idea of men as inept manchildren is definitely a peeve of theirs).
So if you pieces of shit could stop trying to politicize this tragedy, and start working towards real solutions - that would be fantastic. Feminists? If you do want to actually say “yes we also help men” - this would be a fantastic start.
I am saddened by how this has been handled so far.